new york city, $4.12. there are a lot of location issues where if you lifted the requirement you could get a 10 percent or 15 percent drop. >>guest: no, the biggest thing going on in gasoline markets is the fact that the largest export in the american economy today is refined petroleum products. america is exporting three million barrels of refined product like gasoline, diesel and jet fuel out of the gulf coast but what that is doing is keep, refining margins nice and profitable but it is also elevating gas prices artificially higher than they otherwise would be. >>eric: could you suggest the refiners not sell to the best beller? >>guest: not if it is negatively impacting american drivers and the american economy. >>eric: so you want trade restrictions or protectionist? if you refine it here you keep it here and we make it more expensive for are to do business here but don't sell it anywhere elsewhere the standards are easier to deal with? >>guest: we already have those regulations over crude oil that is